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LATER LOUIS XIV FRENCH        

LATER LOUIS XIV FRENCH

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Tactics

The problem with the Louis XIV seemed to be that they are "a bit better" than most in-period armies at quite a lot of things, but they are not "a lot better" than many at any of those same things:
  • The advantages of being Impact foote are so tempting, but really a +1 at impact is not of decisive value unless teamed with Superior troops as well.
  • The Horse with this list can seem so weak compared to out of period opponents (with pistols, and armour) that it is tempting to take almost none - but "almost none" is XVII Century French for "Allow 2 units to be quickly overrun, then lose your baggage and guns as well". Take more than 2 units, or this will befall you too. Louis XIV needs to use at least 2 Superior units and a unit of Elites together to have even close to a half decent mounted force IMO, any less than that and you are using them to just delay combat until your foote go in. They are good quality horse, but unarmoured, sword-armed and very expensive.
  • One poor foote unit can support a whole swathe of your line - but so can the 4-strong German shooting unit as well.
  • Use the Cavalry to support the infantry, the dragoons to hold up the flanks, tried to put as much terrain on them as possible, if not made sure you have a Guard unit on the flank to help out.
  • Overall the army can work but you have to go with the stengths, ie. the infantry.
  • If things do go bad with your mounted, then against horse you can break off as the horse don't have that luxury as you are 'shock'. You then get a chance to rally and have your slim advantage again (in this case best wait to be charged, to break off in your opponents JAP).
  • Difficult to get many more than 6 units of Pike and Shotte.. which isn't enough to leave some in rear support, or send some out to a flank to help the mounted.
  • 3 units of Guard foote look almost compulsary, but it is not quite enough to really have them everywhere and not as many as many as the armies who's plan is to max out on Superiors.

Lists

800AP used by Alasdair at Central London 2014
  • 1 Dragoon's Wartigny Dragoon Unarmoured Average Musket 3
  • 2 Dragoon's du Roi Dragoon Unarmoured Average Musket 3
  • 3 Dragoon's de Tesse Dragoon Unarmoured Average Musket 3
  • 4 Dragoon's d'Hautefort Dragoon Unarmoured Average Musket 3
  • 5 Montcashels Regiment MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 5 HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 6 Dillon's Regiment MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 6 HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 7 Clares Regiment MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 7 HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 8 Artillery Artillery Average Hvy Art 2
  • 9 Artillery Artillery Average Hvy Art 2
  • 1 Hussars LH Unarmoured Average Carbine Sword 2
  • 11 Carabiners Horse Unarmoured Average Carbine Pistol 4
  • 12 Grenadiers a Cheval Dt Horse Unarmoured Elite Pistol Pistol 4
  • 13 Maison de Roi Dt Horse Unarmoured Superior Pistol Pistol 4
  • 14 Foot Regiment MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 14 HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 15 Foot Regiment MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 15 HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 16 Dragoon's Dragoon Unarmoured Average Musket 3
  • 4 TCs

900AP list used by Alasdair & Paddy at Oxford 2013
  • 4 Det Hse, Superior Unarmoured Pi Pi
  • 4 Det Hse, Superior Unarmoured Pi Pi
  • 5+1 foote, Average
  • 5+1 foote, Average
  • 3 Dragoons
  • 3 Dragoons
  • 3 Dragoons
  • 4 LH with Carbines and stuff
  • 3 Dragoons
  • 3 Dragoons
  • 4 Det Hse, Superior unarmoured Pi Pi
  • 4 Det Hse, Superior unarmoured Pi Pi
  • 4 Det Hse, Elite unarmoured Pi Pi
  • 2 Heavy Gunnes
  • 2 Heavy Gunnes
  • 4 Horse, Superior Carbine Pi
  • 4 TCs

900AP list used at Usk 2013
  • 1 Dragoons Dragoon Unarmoured Average Musket 4
  • 2 Line Infantry HF Armoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 2 Line Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 5 Guard Infantry HF Armoured Superior Pike Pike 1
  • 5 Guard Infantry MF Unarmoured Superior Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 3 Line Infantry HF Armoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 3 Line Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 7 Line Infantry HF Armoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 7 Line Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 8 Guard Infantry HF Armoured Superior Pike Pike 1
  • 8 Guard Infantry MF Unarmoured Superior Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 6 Guard Infantry HF Armoured Superior Pike Pike 1
  • 6 Guard Infantry MF Unarmoured Superior Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 4 Line cavalry Dt Horse Unarmoured Superior Impact Mtd Sword 4
  • 10 Guard led by Grenadiers Dt Horse Unarmoured Elite Pistol Pistol 2
  • 12 Line cavalry Dt Horse Unarmoured Superior Impact Mtd Sword 4
  • 11 Artillery Artillery Average Med Art 2
  • 13 Artillery Artillery Average Med Art 2
  • 9 Fusilier du Roi MF Unarmoured Average Musket Bayonet Bayonet 6
  • IC + FC + 2xTC - so the army is bullet proof (against LoA) and can flank march (for fun)


800AP Ben Jones list
1691
  • 2 Determined Horse Unarmoured/Superior
  • 3 Guard Foot 5&1 Pike/Impact Foot
  • 5 Infantry 5&1 Pike/Impact Foot
  • 1 Artillery Medium
  • 2 Dragoons 1x4 1x3

500AP 25mm competition list
  • 2 x TCs
  • 1 Artillery Mart - Average - - -
  • 2 Infantry HF Armoured Average - Pike Pike
  • 2 MF Unarmoured Average Musket* Impact Foot+Bayonet Bayonet+
  • 3 Infantry HF Armoured Average - Pike Pike
  • 3 MF Unarmoured Average Musket* Impact Foot+Bayonet Bayonet+
  • 4 Infantry HF Armoured Average - Pike Pike
  • 4 MF Unarmoured Average Musket* Impact Foot+Bayonet Bayonet+
  • 5 Dragoons Dr Unarmoured Average Musket - -
  • 6 Cavalry DHo Unarmoured Average - Impact Mounted Swordsmen
  • 7 Chevaux DHo Unarmoured Superior - Impact Mounted Swordsmen
  • 8 Chevaux Dho Unarmoured Superior - Impact Mounted Swordsmen


800AP "large" list
  • 1 Dragoons Dragoon Unarmoured Average Musket 4
  • 2 Hussars LH Unarmoured Average Carbine Sword 2
  • 3 Line Infantry HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 3 Line Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 4 Line Infantry HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 4 Line Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 5 Militia Infantry HF Unarmoured Poor Pike Pike 1
  • 5 Militia Infantry MF Unarmoured Poor Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 6 Line cavalry Dt Horse Unarmoured Superior Pistol Pistol 4
  • 7 Line cavalry Dt Horse Unarmoured Superior Pistol Pistol 4
  • 8 Line cavalry Dt Horse Unarmoured Average Pistol Pistol 4
  • 9 Line Infantry HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 9 Line Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 10 Line Infantry HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 10 Line Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 11 Line Infantry HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 1
  • 11 Line Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. Bayonet 5
  • 12 Carabiniers Horse Unarmoured Average Carbine Pistol 4
  • 13 Guard Grenadiers Dt Horse Unarmoured Elite Pistol Pistol 4
  • 14 Artillery Artillery Average Med Art 2

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